Comments on: BBC trying out HTML 5, video element http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html Tech writing blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:04:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Dowdell http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html/comment-page-1#comment-140482 John Dowdell Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:27:29 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html#comment-140482 "@Stefan: Not everyone has a flash plug-in, iPhone users and 64-bit IE for example." ... and the flip side is that not everyone has "a modern browser" (which are actually used by a very small minority of people using browsers). Some consistency in thought would help.... ;-) Thanks for the pointer, Tim... it was interesting to hear the "black box" line turned around to extend to compilation... the rationale for not using established W3C Recommendations like SMIL was something we don't hear often either. One hidden benefit of all this work is that we're all converging now on the idea of video being a useful media type, and that interactive presentations offer advantages to complement static presentations. Even five years ago there was dissent here, so things are improving. jd/adobe “@Stefan: Not everyone has a flash plug-in, iPhone users and 64-bit IE for example.”

… and the flip side is that not everyone has “a modern browser” (which are actually used by a very small minority of people using browsers). Some consistency in thought would help…. ;-)

Thanks for the pointer, Tim… it was interesting to hear the “black box” line turned around to extend to compilation… the rationale for not using established W3C Recommendations like SMIL was something we don’t hear often either.

One hidden benefit of all this work is that we’re all converging now on the idea of video being a useful media type, and that interactive presentations offer advantages to complement static presentations. Even five years ago there was dissent here, so things are improving.

jd/adobe

]]> By: Steve http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html/comment-page-1#comment-140469 Steve Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:25:10 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html#comment-140469 @George *cough* OK then. @George

*cough* OK then.

]]> By: George http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html/comment-page-1#comment-140468 George Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:07:40 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html#comment-140468 Chrome worked for me but the quality was much worse than Firefox, especially the text part. @Stefan: Not everyone has a flash plug-in, iPhone users and 64-bit IE for example. I like the idea of not being tied to Adobe Flash and a more open standard for video. Should've been done a long time ago. I hope the browsers will use hardware acceleration for HD video too, a drawback of Flash video is that it doesn't and so doesn't work well on cheap machines like the Acer Revo. Chrome worked for me but the quality was much worse than Firefox, especially the text part.

@Stefan: Not everyone has a flash plug-in, iPhone users and 64-bit IE for example.

I like the idea of not being tied to Adobe Flash and a more open standard for video. Should’ve been done a long time ago.

I hope the browsers will use hardware acceleration for HD video too, a drawback of Flash video is that it doesn’t and so doesn’t work well on cheap machines like the Acer Revo.

]]> By: Stefan Richter http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html/comment-page-1#comment-140456 Stefan Richter Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:00:33 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1715-bbc-trying-out-html-5-video-element.html#comment-140456 Does it really matter that Flash requires a plugin to run when everyone has that plugin already? Flex has had a view source option for years - don't blame the technology when developers choose not to use a particular feature. Is ASP.net or PHP bad because I can't use view source on it? I'm struggling with that argument. Time syncing: there's no need for polling, and Dutton knows it. Flash can call upon a JS function when certain events occur, and developers use this a lot and have done for years. I've never seen a SWF being polled via JS - ever. I can see HTML5 gaining some ground over many years, but let's not forget that Flash != web video, it's only one aspect of the platform. In fact most Flash devs I know (and I know many) spend most of their time building apps that don't contain any video, and if it does it's usually used in a way that HTML5 will never be able to accomplish. Basic player on a page: yes, maybe. Anything more advanced that would pass the definition of a RIA: I highly doubt it. Does it really matter that Flash requires a plugin to run when everyone has that plugin already?
Flex has had a view source option for years – don’t blame the technology when developers choose not to use a particular feature. Is ASP.net or PHP bad because I can’t use view source on it? I’m struggling with that argument.

Time syncing: there’s no need for polling, and Dutton knows it. Flash can call upon a JS function when certain events occur, and developers use this a lot and have done for years. I’ve never seen a SWF being polled via JS – ever.

I can see HTML5 gaining some ground over many years, but let’s not forget that Flash != web video, it’s only one aspect of the platform.

In fact most Flash devs I know (and I know many) spend most of their time building apps that don’t contain any video, and if it does it’s usually used in a way that HTML5 will never be able to accomplish.
Basic player on a page: yes, maybe. Anything more advanced that would pass the definition of a RIA: I highly doubt it.

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