Comments on: Hands On with Google Chrome Frame http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html Tech writing blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:04:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tim Anderson http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144668 Tim Anderson Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:30:13 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144668 OK, an update. I fired up my VM with Chrome Frame installed. Visited my wordpress admin page, entered username password and asked IE to save the password when prompted. Logged out and back in to verify the password was saved. Then I set the registry key that enables Chrome Frame for all URLs. Restarted IE, went back to the admin page, verified that Chrome Frame was active. Entered my username; but the password was not saved and I had to re-type. Favourites on the other hand do work - fairly simple I imagine, since they are just URLs. Next, cookies. I went to Amazon in IE mode and logged in, then out. Amazon remembers your username via a cookie, and shows your name when you visit. Verified that this was happening. Switched back to Chrome Frame mode. Went back to Amazon, it did not pick up the cookie and gave me a generic home page with no name. So *currently* neither passwords nor cookies work for me. Of course it could change as it is in beta. Tim OK, an update.

I fired up my VM with Chrome Frame installed. Visited my wordpress admin page, entered username password and asked IE to save the password when prompted. Logged out and back in to verify the password was saved.

Then I set the registry key that enables Chrome Frame for all URLs. Restarted IE, went back to the admin page, verified that Chrome Frame was active. Entered my username; but the password was not saved and I had to re-type.

Favourites on the other hand do work – fairly simple I imagine, since they are just URLs.

Next, cookies. I went to Amazon in IE mode and logged in, then out. Amazon remembers your username via a cookie, and shows your name when you visit. Verified that this was happening.

Switched back to Chrome Frame mode. Went back to Amazon, it did not pick up the cookie and gave me a generic home page with no name.

So *currently* neither passwords nor cookies work for me. Of course it could change as it is in beta.

Tim

]]> By: Tim Anderson http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144665 Tim Anderson Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:41:46 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144665 Michael I'll do some experimentation with passwords etc and let you know. Tim Michael

I’ll do some experimentation with passwords etc and let you know.

Tim

]]> By: Michael Foord http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144644 Michael Foord Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:36:07 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144644 On passwords in Chrome Frame, I couldn't find a reference in the official announcement (which I though I had seen) but this article summarises what I *thought* was the situation and is likely to be the goal of google: "Chrome Frame shares many of IE’s browser features, such as bookmarks, history, cookies and passwords. This is essential for end users; it will retain their login credentials no matter which rendering engine is used." http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/09/28/google-chrome-frame-technical-details/ As for the studies of up-to-date browsers, all the ones I saw collected data through information given to websites by browsers - so they made no distinction between corporate and end user browsers. I've worked at various places where update policies were theoretically controlled centrally (taking the *ability* to do updates out of the hands of end users) but they weren't managed correctly. End result, out of date browsers. I *don't* have data but I would be surprised if this wasn't in fact common. On passwords in Chrome Frame, I couldn’t find a reference in the official announcement (which I though I had seen) but this article summarises what I *thought* was the situation and is likely to be the goal of google:

“Chrome Frame shares many of IE’s browser features, such as bookmarks, history, cookies and passwords. This is essential for end users; it will retain their login credentials no matter which rendering engine is used.”

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/09/28/google-chrome-frame-technical-details/

As for the studies of up-to-date browsers, all the ones I saw collected data through information given to websites by browsers – so they made no distinction between corporate and end user browsers.

I’ve worked at various places where update policies were theoretically controlled centrally (taking the *ability* to do updates out of the hands of end users) but they weren’t managed correctly. End result, out of date browsers. I *don’t* have data but I would be surprised if this wasn’t in fact common.

]]> By: Brian Lesser http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144504 Brian Lesser Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:23:13 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144504 Most users don't like switching browsers in order to use different applications so some corporate IT shops may decide to support Chrome Frame. Prime candidates for that are places that support things like finance or HR systems that require IE but who also want to make use of Google applications. Frame may make Wave more acceptable in those environments. Most users don’t like switching browsers in order to use different applications so some corporate IT shops may decide to support Chrome Frame. Prime candidates for that are places that support things like finance or HR systems that require IE but who also want to make use of Google applications. Frame may make Wave more acceptable in those environments.

]]> By: tim http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144503 tim Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:23:12 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144503 @Michael can you point me at the "various studies" - in particular, do they include professionally-managed Windows networks? Consumer and SME is another thing entirely. On your other point - yes the address bar etc remains IE; but IE features such as saved passwords won't integrate with Chrome Frame since it is just a plug-in black box as far as IE is concerned. Tim @Michael can you point me at the “various studies” – in particular, do they include professionally-managed Windows networks? Consumer and SME is another thing entirely.

On your other point – yes the address bar etc remains IE; but IE features such as saved passwords won’t integrate with Chrome Frame since it is just a plug-in black box as far as IE is concerned.

Tim

]]> By: Michael Foord http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144499 Michael Foord Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:18:47 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144499 Also you mention "it does undermine one of the reasons for using IE: that the system browser is kept up-to-date by Microsoft with security patches using Windows update", yet this is a 'feature' of IE that basically doesn't work. Various studies have shown that IE is the worst of the major browsers for having users run out of date / unpatched versions. I guess your point is specifically about admins being able to control update policy, but few Windows networks I've used have got this right - with updates being automatically applied without user intervention. Also you mention “it does undermine one of the reasons for using IE: that the system browser is kept up-to-date by Microsoft with security patches using Windows update”, yet this is a ‘feature’ of IE that basically doesn’t work. Various studies have shown that IE is the worst of the major browsers for having users run out of date / unpatched versions.

I guess your point is specifically about admins being able to control update policy, but few Windows networks I’ve used have got this right – with updates being automatically applied without user intervention.

]]> By: Michael Foord http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html/comment-page-1#comment-144495 Michael Foord Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:36:33 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1818-hands-on-with-google-chrome-frame.html#comment-144495 Are the points raised by Mitchell Baker valid? I mean is it true that pages that use Google Chrome Frame won't appear in the address bar (the only tangible example he gives)? My understanding was that it is only the rendering engine and Javascript engine that are swapped out and that things like passwords, the address bar, et al. all remain native IE. Are the points raised by Mitchell Baker valid?

I mean is it true that pages that use Google Chrome Frame won’t appear in the address bar (the only tangible example he gives)? My understanding was that it is only the rendering engine and Javascript engine that are swapped out and that things like passwords, the address bar, et al. all remain native IE.

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