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	<title>Comments on: Three reasons why Adobe Flash is hated</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Atkin UK</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145242</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Atkin UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a huge difference between &quot;a Flash ad&quot; and &quot;a Flash ad which takes over your browser, brings your PC to its knees and eats your bandwidth&quot;.

Most ads are fine but when listening to music or if your ISP has a small &quot;fair usage&quot; quota, its REALLY annoying for adverts to disturb you or risk pushing you over your bandwidth quota.

Even worse if you are using mobile web stuck on GPRS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a huge difference between &#8220;a Flash ad&#8221; and &#8220;a Flash ad which takes over your browser, brings your PC to its knees and eats your bandwidth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Most ads are fine but when listening to music or if your ISP has a small &#8220;fair usage&#8221; quota, its REALLY annoying for adverts to disturb you or risk pushing you over your bandwidth quota.</p>
<p>Even worse if you are using mobile web stuck on GPRS.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145171</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without the ads, many of the sites we all visit would not exist. Journalists couldn&#039;t make a living. We&#039;d all become less informed. As the saying goes &#039;money makes the world go round.&#039; Its the same for the Apps market, film/tv content etc. etc.  To use an IT company phrase, at some point these people/organisations need to &#039;monetize&#039; their content. Would the people who moan about these ads, or the developers of applications that suppress them rather pay per click to visit anything useful in their web browser. Good news! Mr. Murdoch has just granted your wish.

Now back to Flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the ads, many of the sites we all visit would not exist. Journalists couldn&#8217;t make a living. We&#8217;d all become less informed. As the saying goes &#8216;money makes the world go round.&#8217; Its the same for the Apps market, film/tv content etc. etc.  To use an IT company phrase, at some point these people/organisations need to &#8216;monetize&#8217; their content. Would the people who moan about these ads, or the developers of applications that suppress them rather pay per click to visit anything useful in their web browser. Good news! Mr. Murdoch has just granted your wish.</p>
<p>Now back to Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145155</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While, I agree that flash ads are very annoying.  If flash and Silverlight didn&#039;t exist, the ads would just be presented in another way.

I like rich content and well presented websites.  But I also want the sites I visit to be lean, efficient and stable.  Similarly, I want any ads I see to be unobtrusive.  The second an ad becomes intrusive, its root URL gets added to a blocker and I don&#039;t see any advertising from that company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While, I agree that flash ads are very annoying.  If flash and Silverlight didn&#8217;t exist, the ads would just be presented in another way.</p>
<p>I like rich content and well presented websites.  But I also want the sites I visit to be lean, efficient and stable.  Similarly, I want any ads I see to be unobtrusive.  The second an ad becomes intrusive, its root URL gets added to a blocker and I don&#8217;t see any advertising from that company.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145127</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
On the flipside, if big ad money was being spent heavily to draw your attention to annoying HTML5 based banners that autoplay video (in low quality for now  what would your friend do then? Block all HTML5 based content I guess.
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A very good point. Long live Flash! 

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
On the flipside, if big ad money was being spent heavily to draw your attention to annoying HTML5 based banners that autoplay video (in low quality for now  what would your friend do then? Block all HTML5 based content I guess.
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<p>A very good point. Long live Flash! </p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Richter</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145125</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Richter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Flash Developer. I do not build ads or banners. Please like me :)

Jokes aside, and I can understand the haters at times. But the technology is not at fault here, it&#039;s the way it is used - and that does not just apply to Flash. 

To think that HTML5 is the solution to all the web&#039;s problems is very short sighted. &#039;Open&#039; does not equal good, and proprietary does not equal bad. Plus the Flash Player plugin is about the only thing that isn&#039;t yet completely open: the SWF format is open, the compiler is, the framework is, and there&#039;s a lot of open source tooling available too.
On the flipside, if big ad money was being spent heavily to draw your attention to annoying HTML5 based banners that autoplay video (in low quality for now ;) what would your friend do then? Block all HTML5 based content I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Flash Developer. I do not build ads or banners. Please like me <img src='http://www.itwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jokes aside, and I can understand the haters at times. But the technology is not at fault here, it&#8217;s the way it is used &#8211; and that does not just apply to Flash. </p>
<p>To think that HTML5 is the solution to all the web&#8217;s problems is very short sighted. &#8216;Open&#8217; does not equal good, and proprietary does not equal bad. Plus the Flash Player plugin is about the only thing that isn&#8217;t yet completely open: the SWF format is open, the compiler is, the framework is, and there&#8217;s a lot of open source tooling available too.<br />
On the flipside, if big ad money was being spent heavily to draw your attention to annoying HTML5 based banners that autoplay video (in low quality for now <img src='http://www.itwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  what would your friend do then? Block all HTML5 based content I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Crook</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145124</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie Crook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely these are &quot;problems&quot; for geek dom and not for users.  Bad design, content and useability are everywhere regardless of platform and should never be excused.  

The average internet user, (I say this knowing that most of the people who read this are not in this category) just want a great experience they couldnt care less what the developer has used to create it, in fact if they are wondering it isnt working properly.  

Convergence needs something to meld them all together - we arent going to be shackled to our desktops for ever (thank god!) user engagement and functionality is the only thing that matters not what camp you are in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely these are &#8220;problems&#8221; for geek dom and not for users.  Bad design, content and useability are everywhere regardless of platform and should never be excused.  </p>
<p>The average internet user, (I say this knowing that most of the people who read this are not in this category) just want a great experience they couldnt care less what the developer has used to create it, in fact if they are wondering it isnt working properly.  </p>
<p>Convergence needs something to meld them all together &#8211; we arent going to be shackled to our desktops for ever (thank god!) user engagement and functionality is the only thing that matters not what camp you are in.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Stuntz</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/1841-three-reasons-why-adobe-flash-is-hated.html/comment-page-1#comment-145121</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Stuntz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can come up with more reasons:

It is yet one more application to keep up to date, due to frequent security patches.

The upgrade mechanism is obnoxious. Last night, when Firefox prompted me to update flash, Adobe tried to add a trial version of some commercial anti-virus software to the download, as an opt-out, rather than an opt-in. Especially for a security patch, this is of noxious; it is only marginally better than a Trojan horse. The default link for the installer wanted to use Adobe&#039;s useless &quot;download manager&quot; rather than just downloading the installer itself.

Flash makes the browser misbehave. When a Flash application has focus, most of the keyboard shortcuts for the browser no longer work. The problem is compounded by Flash developers who use controls which don&#039;t even resemble OS standard controls, like &quot;scrollbars&quot; which render his four pixels wide and don&#039;t have any paging features.

But I think the number one reason that people hate Flash is the tendency of Flash developers to use it when standard HTML would work just fine. I think relatively few people complain about YouTube using Flash to show videos; Flash is a good fit for this. But when Flash developers start using Flash to render menus on a webpage, add a scrolling text area, and other things which HTML arguably works better for, then Flash is seen as the problem, rather than the developer&#039;s choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can come up with more reasons:</p>
<p>It is yet one more application to keep up to date, due to frequent security patches.</p>
<p>The upgrade mechanism is obnoxious. Last night, when Firefox prompted me to update flash, Adobe tried to add a trial version of some commercial anti-virus software to the download, as an opt-out, rather than an opt-in. Especially for a security patch, this is of noxious; it is only marginally better than a Trojan horse. The default link for the installer wanted to use Adobe&#8217;s useless &#8220;download manager&#8221; rather than just downloading the installer itself.</p>
<p>Flash makes the browser misbehave. When a Flash application has focus, most of the keyboard shortcuts for the browser no longer work. The problem is compounded by Flash developers who use controls which don&#8217;t even resemble OS standard controls, like &#8220;scrollbars&#8221; which render his four pixels wide and don&#8217;t have any paging features.</p>
<p>But I think the number one reason that people hate Flash is the tendency of Flash developers to use it when standard HTML would work just fine. I think relatively few people complain about YouTube using Flash to show videos; Flash is a good fit for this. But when Flash developers start using Flash to render menus on a webpage, add a scrolling text area, and other things which HTML arguably works better for, then Flash is seen as the problem, rather than the developer&#8217;s choice.</p>
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