Windows activation annoyances – not one but two

I set aside today for doing a Small Business Server 2008 installation. We had the new HP box, the new HP Small Business Server 2008 Premium pack, a stack of CALs. All legal, decent and honest.

Problem number one: the Microsoft-supplied Certificate of Authenticity has an unreadable product key. There is some kind of printing error; two of the letters are actually missing, and three more are partially obscured. It is, in other words, useless.

After making a number of calls, I’ve discovered that it is hard to get anyone to take an interest in an unreadable COA. The whole system is built on the theory that you get one COA with the product keys, and one only, and if you lose it, that is that. That said my supplier is helpful and I’m sure will sort it out, probably by treating the entire pack as faulty … of course that means a delay while a replacement is arranged. You would think there might be a database somewhere, where you can key in the serial number of the COA (which is fine) and read out the product keys; but apparently not.

In the meantime, I made a start by installing Server 2008 Standard (the 2nd server in SBS Premium) without a key, as a supposedly 60-day trial. The 60 days didn’t last long; it is already telling me I must activate “today”, probably because I fitted more RAM.

However, it did throw up another little issue. The HP version of SBS is meant to be locked to HP machines. That’s fine; I have an HP box, I have HP software. However, I want to install SBS as a virtual machine hosted on the 2nd server – a fully supported configuration. How can the BIOS-locked installation tell the difference between a virtual machine hosted on an HP box, and a virtual machine hosted on any other box?

The answer: it can’t. My perfectly legitimate installation throws up the error: This system is not supported platform [sic].

For this one, I have found a solution. What you do is to download the trial and install from that, entering your HP product key when requested (this one I do have).

I am not sure which is more silly, the fact that the legal media will not install, or the fact that the trial media bypasses it so easily.

All these are hassles which only the honest have to suffer.

I understand Microsoft’s need to protect its intellectual property; but frankly the user experience when encountering this kind of issue is appalling, and one soon tires of endless recorded messages that do not address your issue. It doesn’t help that Google searches bring back mostly information on piracy, or exhortations not to be a pirate.

Linux anyone?

Update: Here’s an interesting tech note from HP about a similar Hyper-V issue for HP-branded Server 2008. Looking on the SBS media, the exact files referenced there are not present, but there is one in the same location called HPActive.cmd which adds a registry entry to the host and does some funky licensing stuff. That said, it also seems to replace the product key which is odd. Could running this fix the issue? No promises, and at your own risk.

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10 comments to Windows activation annoyances – not one but two

  • Susan

    Mind you I’m more familiar with Volume license and not OEM media but there’s typically two product keys. One is a key to be used on a physical install, the other is a key to be used in a virtual install.

    So that I’m clear you installed a base Win2k8?

    And then tried to put the OEM of SBS 2008 in that HyperV platform?

  • Susan

    P.S. you can slrearm that eval and tell it to go away.

  • tim

    @Susan

    There’s a ton of Product IDs in the package:

    One for SBS physical
    One for 2nd server physical
    One for SBS virtual
    One for 2nd server virtual

    plus a few for SQL :-)

    The one that was obscured was 2nd server physical – which is needed for the hyper-v host.

    Since the product specifically comes with a product key for sbs virtual you would think it is supported; but the media supplied fails because of a pre-check for HP hardware.

    Tim

  • Susan

    Can you ping me directly because something is not right. As far as we’re aware it shouldn’t bios check you in order to set up that virtual.

  • Ross

    Hi Guys,

    I came accross the same problem and have so far spent about 6 hours in total talking to HP and still no result. How ever there is a Advisory Document on the HP website that is worth a read except for when you get to Step 3(Thats is where i am at but no luck finding the File). HP have no idea what the problem is!

    Ross

  • tim

    Ross

    Well, there is always the trial approach. Let us know if you get a sensible answer from HP though, or the LHBL.vbs script.

    Tim

  • ron

    For the benefit of anyone else who finds this post, the HPactive.cmd program on the HP-branded Windows server OS DVD does the same thing as the previous HPVirtualOSE.exe-plus-vbs script combo. After the host OS is installed and Hyper-V installed, run HPactive.cmd to allow the HP-branded OS media to be used for a Hyper-V guest OS install.

  • Kieran

    Ron is correct. I’m trying to install SBS2008Std (HP Branded) on a ML350G6 that has the 2nd-license Server 2008 running Hyper-V as a host. I couldn’t install SBS2008 as a guest as it said the system is not a supported platform. Running HPActive.cmd (as per post http://bit.ly/bCi3FA) has let me install SBS2008. No restart of the physical (host) OS was required.

  • Pierre John

    I can confirm that the HPActive.cmd script also fixes the problem with HP-branded SBS 2011 media.

  • Emil Ehrs

    I can also confirm that the HPActive.cmd script fixed the validation problem.