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	<title>Comments on: Crazy Microsoft stuff</title>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Piasecki</title>
		<link>http://www.itwriting.com/blog/2092-crazy-microsoft-stuff.html/comment-page-1#comment-157567</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Piasecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>\begin{crazy-talk} Is the fault inherently with SBS--that is, the act of trying to provide this all-in-one package--or is it inherently the fault of the design and setup of each of these Microsoft tools (Active Directory, Exchange, SharePoint) in that they cannot easily co-exist in the same operating system instance? Really, shouldn&#039;t that be possible (regardless of whether or not it is recommended)? Shouldn&#039;t it be possible to do anything with AD that does not require becoming a subject-matter expert in the software and reading a 300-page tome? Why does migration involve Byzantine commands (&quot;adprep -abandonAllHopeYeCanNeverGoBack&quot;) instead of a conceptually simple transfer of a database? I think that, perhaps, the SBS team can only do so much: when AD, Exchange, and SharePoint are all administrative disasters, there&#039;s only so much lipstick that you can put on that pig. It&#039;s an example of dogfooding, but the feedback never seems to propagate back up to the teams that are causing the problems because &quot;it&#039;s just a configuration problem.&quot; \end{crazy-talk}

(This from a tried-and-true junior Microsoft developer who is also &quot;the company&#039;s computer guy&quot; and completely terrified of the SBS 2008 server sitting behind his chair in the office.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>\begin{crazy-talk} Is the fault inherently with SBS&#8211;that is, the act of trying to provide this all-in-one package&#8211;or is it inherently the fault of the design and setup of each of these Microsoft tools (Active Directory, Exchange, SharePoint) in that they cannot easily co-exist in the same operating system instance? Really, shouldn&#8217;t that be possible (regardless of whether or not it is recommended)? Shouldn&#8217;t it be possible to do anything with AD that does not require becoming a subject-matter expert in the software and reading a 300-page tome? Why does migration involve Byzantine commands (&#8220;adprep -abandonAllHopeYeCanNeverGoBack&#8221;) instead of a conceptually simple transfer of a database? I think that, perhaps, the SBS team can only do so much: when AD, Exchange, and SharePoint are all administrative disasters, there&#8217;s only so much lipstick that you can put on that pig. It&#8217;s an example of dogfooding, but the feedback never seems to propagate back up to the teams that are causing the problems because &#8220;it&#8217;s just a configuration problem.&#8221; \end{crazy-talk}</p>
<p>(This from a tried-and-true junior Microsoft developer who is also &#8220;the company&#8217;s computer guy&#8221; and completely terrified of the SBS 2008 server sitting behind his chair in the office.)</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

Thanks for the comment. I&#039;ve seen this kind of stuff from hosters as well. However, there is cloud and there is cloud - you would expect that true multi-tenant platforms such as Salesforce.com, or Google Apps, would have much more considered security implementations.

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. I&#8217;ve seen this kind of stuff from hosters as well. However, there is cloud and there is cloud &#8211; you would expect that true multi-tenant platforms such as Salesforce.com, or Google Apps, would have much more considered security implementations.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Culmsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Culmsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since every web hoster can be &quot;the cloud&quot;, then this experience says it all

http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/08/25/all-in-the-name-of-security/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since every web hoster can be &#8220;the cloud&#8221;, then this experience says it all</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/08/25/all-in-the-name-of-security/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/08/25/all-in-the-name-of-security/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Culmsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Culmsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I am pretty cynical about cloud systems too :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I am pretty cynical about cloud systems too <img src='http://www.itwriting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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