Comments on: Microsoft accused of reinventing EJB – ouch! http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html Tech writing blog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:04:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103233 Mark Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:34:48 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html#comment-103233 "I really must be honest I would never touch a line of Java unless I really had to." You should. Then you would realize were were wrong. I do both Java and .Net. For most applications, Java is the better choice in the long run. "maddening complexity of Java(Xml config files anyone?" Not all frameworks require this and most give you a choice. "Not to mention lack of RAD tools) " What RAD tools do you think are missing "additional baggage of extreme syntax verbosity" You mean like VB and C# “I really must be honest I would never touch a line of Java unless I really had to.”
You should. Then you would realize were were wrong. I do both Java and .Net. For most applications, Java is the better choice in the long run.

“maddening complexity of Java(Xml config files anyone?” Not all frameworks require this and most give you a choice.

“Not to mention lack of RAD tools) ” What RAD tools do you think are missing

“additional baggage of extreme syntax verbosity” You mean like VB and C#

]]> By: ton http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html/comment-page-1#comment-103176 ton Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:28:53 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html#comment-103176 'Microsoft’s success with .NET has been partly enabled by over-complexity in the Java world.' Interesting point here but for me .NET has been completely enabled by the maddening complexity of Java(Xml config files anyone? Not to mention lack of RAD tools) and the additional baggage of extreme syntax verbosity. I really must be honest I would never touch a line of Java unless I really had to. ‘Microsoft’s success with .NET has been partly enabled by over-complexity in the Java world.’

Interesting point here but for me .NET has been completely enabled by the maddening complexity of Java(Xml config files anyone? Not to mention lack of RAD tools) and the additional baggage of extreme syntax verbosity. I really must be honest I would never touch a line of Java unless I really had to.

]]> By: Roger Jennings http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html/comment-page-1#comment-102789 Roger Jennings Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:11:14 +0000 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/698-microsoft-accused-of-reinventing-ejb-ouch.html#comment-102789 Hi, Tim, Thanks for the compliment. As to "I am really disappointed that Visual Studio 2008 is still such a mess for quick database applications." Have you tried ASP.NET Dynamic Data. I believe it's Blinq on steroids and finally supports any RDBMS with a LINQ provider and ersatz DataContext and even the ObjectDataSource. Even Frans Bouma thinks it's great and has adapted LLBLGen Pro as a data source. I think most problems with quick and easy databases for novices with VS 2005+ was the entire attaching and detaching process, which appears to be an attempt to make SQL Server mimic a file-system DB (e.g., Access). Cheers, --rj Hi, Tim,

Thanks for the compliment.

As to “I am really disappointed that Visual Studio 2008 is still such a mess for quick database applications.”

Have you tried ASP.NET Dynamic Data. I believe it’s Blinq on steroids and finally supports any RDBMS with a LINQ provider and ersatz DataContext and even the ObjectDataSource.

Even Frans Bouma thinks it’s great and has adapted LLBLGen Pro as a data source.

I think most problems with quick and easy databases for novices with VS 2005+ was the entire attaching and detaching process, which appears to be an attempt to make SQL Server mimic a file-system DB (e.g., Access).

Cheers,

–rj

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