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Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Avi (---.netvision.net.il)
Date: Thursday, 11-Dec-2003, 13:16:33

I want to start using the HtmlEditor, and I want to shorten my learning curve. Has anyone read "Introduction to programming Internet Explorer in C#" by Nikit Zykov (ISBN: B00007FYZP; November 11, 2002)? Any opinions? Is it worth the 20 bucks? Is it relevant and needed to better learn HtmlEditor? Any alternatives?

Re: Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Tim (---.gotadsl.co.uk)
Date: Thursday, 11-Dec-2003, 13:52:13

It looks relevant but I haven't seen it or read it and can't speak for its quality.

What sort of things do you want to achieve?

Tim

Re: Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Avi (---.netvision.net.il)
Date: Thursday, 11-Dec-2003, 14:57:38

I want two things:

1. To allow the user to edit text (i.e. act as "MS-Word").

2. To let the user move around the application like on a web page (i.e. HTML interface (I think Inductive is MS's marketing name for this ;-).

What worries me is that I haven't seen lots of documentation here for the control. I've downloaded it and the only thing that looks like documentation is a 7K readme.txt file. Not that I'm complaining, great work etc., However I've done almost no COM or Internet programming and I'm afraid of the learning curve!

Re: Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Tim (---.gotadsl.co.uk)
Date: Thursday, 11-Dec-2003, 15:32:08

The API for the htmleditor is in one sense pretty small. It should be better documented, and I'll do some work on this when I have time, but it's not too hard to work out.

On the other hand, the API for mshtml is very large, particularly as it encompasses the DOM and generic COM stuff. Mostly this is documented in MSDN. We don't have any hope of documenting it here.

Of course the idea is that the control wraps the ugly stuff so you don't have to worry about it.

There are also things that just aren't well documented. I've recently tried and failed to figure out the FilterDataObject method, for example. But you can get a long way without too much problem.

As regards the HTML interface, it's going to depend on exactly what you want to do. Having an HTML button that triggers a method in your winform app is straightforward, for example. But is there any point? You can make an app look web-like, with hypertext links and so on, without actually involving embedded IE.

Tim

Re: Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Avi (---.netvision.net.il)
Date: Thursday, 11-Dec-2003, 17:17:31

The way I see it (and I'm VERY inexperienced :-) using IE allows me to use XML, XSLT (and CSS/XSLT-FO and SVG. have I forgotten any buzzword :-))to easily manipulate data into display and separate display from logic.

I've played a little with XML and XSLT, and it seems really sexy. I'm intrigued by the integration of data and XML and integrating XML and display would close the loop ...

B.T.W., how would you go about making "an app look web-like, with hypertext links and so on, without actually involving embedded IE"?

Re: Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Tim (---.gotadsl.co.uk)
Date: Thursday, 11-Dec-2003, 17:54:45

I certainly agree about the value of XML, XSLT etc. Of course some of these technologies aren't specific to HTML presentation. CSS is though.

You can make an app web-like in appearance by using controls like the LinkLabel in .Net.

Tim

Re: Zykov's book - Recommendations?
Posted by: Joerg Krause (---.reverse.qsc.de)
Date: Saturday, 13-Dec-2003, 14:25:45

Not worth to buy. 39 pages for $ 20. If read the text and it does not contain any new information.

joergAvi wrote:

> I want to start using the HtmlEditor, and I want to shorten my
> learning curve. Has anyone read "Introduction to programming
> Internet Explorer in C#" by Nikit Zykov (ISBN: B00007FYZP;
> November 11, 2002)? Any opinions? Is it worth the 20 bucks? Is
> it relevant and needed to better learn HtmlEditor? Any
> alternatives?




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