{"id":6509,"date":"2012-09-08T20:09:25","date_gmt":"2012-09-08T19:09:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/?p=6509"},"modified":"2012-09-08T20:09:25","modified_gmt":"2012-09-08T19:09:25","slug":"microsofts-hyper-v-server-2012-too-painful-to-use","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/6509-microsofts-hyper-v-server-2012-too-painful-to-use.html","title":{"rendered":"Microsoft\u2019s Hyper-V Server 2012: too painful to use?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A user over on the technet forums says that the free standalone Hyper-V is <a href=\"http:\/\/social.technet.microsoft.com\/Forums\/en-US\/winserverhyperv\/thread\/e91635ce-0891-40ac-a186-21da60dfd494\" target=\"_blank\">too painful to use<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I was excited about the free stand-alone version and decided to try it out.&#160; I downloaded the Hyper-V 2012 RC standalone version and installed it.&#160; This thing is a trainwreck!&#160; There is not a chance in hell that anyone will ever use this thing in scenarios like mine.&#160; It obviously intended to be used by IT Geniuses in a domain only.&#160; I would really like a version that I can up and running in less than half an hour like esxi.&#160; How the heck is anyone going to evaluate it this in a reasonable manner?&#160; <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>To be clear, this is about the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/server-cloud\/hyper-v-server\/default.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">free Hyper-V Server<\/a>, which is essentially Server Core with only the Hyper-V role available. It is not about Hyper-V in general as a feature of Windows Server and Windows 8.<\/p>\n<p>Personally I think the standalone Hyper-V Server is a fantastic offering; but at the same time I see this user\u2019s point. If you join the Hyper-V server to a Windows domain and use the administration tools in Windows 8 everything is fine; but if you are, say, a Mac user and download Hyper-V Server to have a look, it is not obvious what to do next. As it turns out you can get started just by typing <strong>powershell<\/strong> at a command prompt and then <strong>New-VM<\/strong>, but how would you know that? Further, if Hyper-V is not joined to a domain you will have permission issues trying to manage it remotely.<\/p>\n<p>Install Hyper-V Server, and the screen you see after logging on does not even mention virtualization.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/image22.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"image\" style=\"border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px; background-image: none; border-bottom: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/image_thumb22.png\" width=\"404\" height=\"266\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>By contrast, with VMWare\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vmware.com\/products\/vsphere-hypervisor\/overview.html\" target=\"_blank\">free ESXi<\/a> has a web UI that works from any machine on the network and lets you get started creating and managing VMs. It is less capable than Hyper-V Server; but for getting up and running quickly in a non-domain environment it wins easily.<\/p>\n<p>I have been working with Hyper-V Server 2012 myself recently, upgrading two servers on my own network which run a bunch of servers for development and test. From my perspective the free Hyper-V Server, which is essentially Server Core with only the Hyper-V role available, is a great offer from Microsoft, though I am still scratching my head over how to interpret the information (or lack of it) on the new product page, which refers to the download as a trial. I am pretty sure it is still offered on similar terms to those <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.technet.com\/b\/virtualization\/archive\/2009\/07\/30\/microsoft-hyper-v-server-2008-r2-rtm-more.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">outlined<\/a> for Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 by Program Manager Jeff Woolsey, who is clear that it is a free offering:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Up to 8 processors <\/li>\n<li>Up to 64 logical processors <\/li>\n<li>Up to 1TB RAM <\/li>\n<li>Up to 64GB RAM per VM <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These specifications may have been improved for Hyper-V Server 2012; or perhaps reduced; or perhaps Microsoft really is making it a trial. It is all rather unclear, though I would guess we will get more details soon.<\/p>\n<p>It is worth noting that if you <strong>do<\/strong> have a Windows domain and a Windows 8 client, Hyper-V Server is delightfully easy to use, especially with the newly released <a href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/en-us\/download\/details.aspx?id=28972\" target=\"_blank\">Remote Server Administration Tools<\/a> that now work fine with Windows 8 RTM, even though at the time of writing the download page still says Release Preview. You can use Server Manager as well as Hyper-V Manager, giving immediate access to events, services and performance data, plus a bunch of useful features on a right-click menu:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/image15.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"image\" style=\"border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; background-image: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border-top-width: 0px\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/image_thumb15.png\" width=\"314\" height=\"317\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In addition, File and Storage services are installed by default, which I presume means you can use Storage Spaces with Hyper-V Server, which could be handy for hosting VMs with dynamically expanding virtual hard drives. Technically you could also use it as a file server, but I presume that would breach the license.<\/p>\n<p>For working with VMs themselves of course you have the Hyper-V Manager which is a great tool and not difficult to use.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/image16.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"image\" style=\"border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; background-image: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: inline; padding-right: 0px; border-top-width: 0px\" border=\"0\" alt=\"image\" src=\"http:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/image_thumb16.png\" width=\"404\" height=\"187\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The question then: with all the work that has gone into these nice GUI tools, why does Microsoft throw out Hyper-V Server with so little help that a potential customer calls it \u201ctoo painful to use\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>Normally the idea of free editions is to entice customers into upgrading to a paid-for version. That is certainly VMWare\u2019s strategy, but Hyper-V seems to be different. It is actually good enough on its own that for many users it will be a long time before there is any need to upgrade. Microsoft\u2019s hope, presumably, is that you will run Windows Server instances in those Hyper-V VMs, and these of course <strong>do<\/strong> need licenses. If you buy Windows 8 to run the GUI tools, that is another sale for Microsoft. In fact, the paid-for Windows Server 2012 can easily work out cheaper than the free editions, if you need a lot of server licenses, since they come with an allowance of licenses for virtual instances of Windows Server. Hyper-V Server is only really free if you run free software, such as Linux, in the VMs.<\/p>\n<p>Personally I like Hyper-V Server for another reason. Its restricted features mean that there is no temptation to run other stuff on the host, and that in itself is an advantage.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A user over on the technet forums says that the free standalone Hyper-V is too painful to use: I was excited about the free stand-alone version and decided to try it out.&#160; I downloaded the Hyper-V 2012 RC standalone version and installed it.&#160; This thing is a trainwreck!&#160; There is not a chance in hell &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/6509-microsofts-hyper-v-server-2012-too-painful-to-use.html\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Microsoft\u2019s Hyper-V Server 2012: too painful to use?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[55,92,97],"tags":[466,586,950],"class_list":["post-6509","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-microsoft","category-virtualization","category-windows","tag-hyper-v","tag-microsoft","tag-virtualization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6509","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6509"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6509\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6509"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6509"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.itwriting.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6509"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}